Monday, April 18, 2011

Neil Strauss is a Liar! War On the Game III

Yo, yo...

Here's another video where I break down a time Neil Strauss lied to my face, for no reason whatsoever other than being a sociopath.

Neil Strauss = Sociopath and pathological liar.

That's math.

Leave me lots of comments psychoanalyzing me, I always get a chuckle out of those :)

JS-The General


  1. Anonymous3:08 PM

    You never go full sociopath.

  2. Anonymous3:14 PM

    jeez man everyone loves beef, of at least i do, but this is booooring. get to something juicy, you could make videos like this of everyone in the world

    sorry man but you're making this into a massive thing and the evidence isn't entertaining. as someone else said this must purely be to drive up traffic, but i cant imagine money being that bad for you right now so whats up

  3. Momentum3:31 PM

    By your description, it seems that - at least at the time - it would be very hard to know whom you could trust in the community. If you were so apprehensive to approach Neil because of your particular standpoint in the community, dont you think he picked up on that? It's only really lying if you have some presupposed 'trust' or 'relationship', no? Otherwise, it's just him protecting the 'wow-factor' for an upcoming project.

    In all honesty, I think it's pretty obvious why he 'lied' to you. Why give anyone the chance to bash his system in - by your measure - such a heated, political pua climate before it even has a chance? If the roles were reversed, how quick would you be to tell Neil the details of your upcoming project? And what about to the thousands that swear their life is changed through their adoption of Neil's techniques?

    I write this with an open mind, and in the spirit of conversation. Im relatively new to the community, so I'm interested to hear your thoughts.



  4. Anonymous4:36 PM

    Hi I did not know the name of annihilation method until you mentioned his product name.

    4,000 dollars????How come?One on one from someone known name who has proven his for three days live I may consider it.I don't feel rip off if it is boot camp by who has good reputation cost under 1500.500 x 3 days for seminar,some people spend for it.
    Yeah,I am poor,I have to learn from self-study materials.Now rich men's game not for college boy.I think college boys who want to turn around his life has more demand?Student discount?They may pay 500 or 600 for one day training.

    Wow,I want to know if that product sold well or not.

    Some companies heavily depends on live.

  5. Anonymous7:34 PM


  6. Anonymous9:20 PM

    gotta admit beef is entertaining but at the same time this is really petty

  7. Anonymous10:47 PM

    This is so pointless. So far you have on Strauss that he tried to make out with a random girl at a club one time that you shouldn't have cared about since you go seduced tons of other women and that he didn't want you to know about his product. You are so above this.

  8. Anonymous11:09 PM

    Neil created this market but half-ass leaving community does not cool.

    I listened your podcast long time ago.That time you said he is a jerk but he is not fake.So it was lie to yourself because you were not ready to go for war?

    If his product is at least working and helping other people,I think it is not big deal though.

    Do you think Style academy is the biggest rival for your business?

    Both do not have regular basis live training.I think same style.

    Your products are so much better than venusian arts products.I heard their DVDs quality was horrible.I have not bought love system products but their presentation is really professional manner.

    Both companies killer contents are live program.I think running live program is hard for writer like Style and you.

    Someone like really good but does not offer regular live training is Sinn,Captain Jack and Style.I think all of them has other business and no time for live training.

    Well,still those three helps people still great though.

    It sounds like war is toning down.I would rather listen your podcast again.It was really good entertainment.

  9. Anonymous1:00 AM

    Pastis is still around. I look forward to more Mondays because of your new column dude.

  10. Anonymous2:25 AM

    i'm liking the hate campain, i dont really care if there is a reason behind it, to get traffic or whatever, it gives me a few mins of entertianment on a monday

  11. Anonymous8:09 AM

    This is genius because people google Neil Strauss for non-pua reasons, since Strauss is an author and Rolling Stones writer. So whenever people google Strauss, they'll see Sinn's posts on Strauss, leading them to Sinn's sites and products.

  12. Anonymous9:57 AM

    hey Jon, do you give paid online consultation? and do you manage to read your emails?

    BTW, do you have a facebook page to follow your news? Most people spent a lot of hours in Facebook nowadays, myself included of course.

  13. Anonymous10:49 AM

    Yes I watched the Anihilation method, for free of course. There are some useful things in it. One of the best things I learned is what a DLV is, and your videos are a great example of it! Thanks for reminding me!!

  14. Anonymous10:58 AM

    It is so crazy. Therefor i like it

  15. Anonymous11:40 AM

    The video won't start for me.

  16. Anonymous12:12 PM

    $4000!! Only Mystery deserves to make money from seduction material, all others are repeaters. admit it, nothing really original has been said outside mystery, just twists on the same old. anything truly original outside Mystery, was created specifically to be original, but not necessarily useful...just different...and wrong.

  17. Anonymous12:18 PM

    Monday bashing time-----.

    First target is Neil Strauss,who's next?But I think big name is limited.

    You only can attack someone who is big shot.That still not DLV.If you bashed small one bashed for week after week.You are just bully boy.You can't bully some old man too.We know it that old man is done.And you did good enough to bash him.

    Neil Strauss,Mystery,Savoy,TD,Brad P,Matador,those are big name.

    who else are big name?I can't see you talk about Savoy and Brad P for this category.So,Your target is limited.Yeah,there are some other guys on PUA ranking but those are smaller than you,don't bash them like this level.

    One time podcasting bash is ok to attack anyone though.

    If you want to increase track to your website.Facebook is good marketing tool.

    One time I was using online dating site.PUA training ad always pop up.They seems like money to advertise themselves.

  18. Anonymous1:44 PM

    Cool Podcast.Talking about Mystery.
    You should have some third party's testimony for this war.

  19. Emile2:12 PM

    Jon, this story is just plain stupid:))) I would have lied to you, too, given your character which you have exposed to us so neatly recently:)))

  20. Anonymous7:18 PM

    >>>>Anonymous said...
    $4000!! Only Mystery deserves to make money from seduction material, all others are repeaters. admit it, nothing really original has been said outside mystery, just twists on the same old. anything truly original outside Mystery, was created specifically to be original, but not necessarily useful...just different...and wrong.

    Hey,Mystery's one on one boot camp is 10,000 now not 4,000.He was on TV,this is the only reason for 10,000 for weekends training.How much would you charge Sinn?Well,for one on one maybe you can charge 10,000 for one on one.All you need is just wait some rich guys call.

    But I don't know how long this last.Economy is still not good.Sinn mentioned on podcast about price of boot camp.I am sure Sinn can give same result or better result which Mystery gives.

    10 years latter,Mystery will be like a Ross Jeffries and You maybe like a Mystery now.Or you start another business before you became like them.

    Bashing Monday!

    I wanna hear who is good too.

  21. I've read and watched a lot of material from Sinn, Savoy, Gambler, Adam Lyons, Asian Playboy, Neil Strauss, Mistery, Juggler, Steve P, Mehow, David De Angelo, Ross Jeffries, Gambler, Carlos Xuma, Swingcat, Thundercat, Vin DiCarlo, Cajun Spice and more. They should stop creating fancy models and techniques and whatever, and focusing in making detailed profiles of women by age, race, physical appearence, personality, etc. The thing is, when you know how certain type of girl thinks, you have almost all the work done to seduce her.

    You better hope I dont get good with women in general, because I'll sweep all of you out the business if I do. For example, I cracked out how online performers think, and I can get any of them to fall in love with me even before they saw a photo of me.

  22. Anonymous7:55 AM

    Sinn is just jealous he always talks negative about other people,

    sinn should just stop being a baby and start acting like a grown up,

    this is why sinn wanted to kill himself its no surprise he even hates himself

  23. Anonymous4:39 PM

    some people need endorsement from Neil Strauss.I see his face on other dating guru's website.Neil Strauss and Mystery are like a some authority in this business.

  24. Anonymous10:58 PM

    u have another blog post with the same name, "Neil Strauss Is a Liar" posted in July 2010. So I can't believe that he lied to two times, what an asshole this Neil is.

    Let me tell you Sinn, I am so pissed off right now that he lied to two times already, WTH why did he have lie, who lies like this, his pants are probably on fire, come on Neil you know better than that dude stop lying

  25. Anonymous12:59 PM

    Sinn, is this the best you got on Neil???? you said in the first video that you know where the bodies are buried in his life," I thought you would give us something better than a small white lie.

  26. Anonymous1:15 PM

    I remember fisrt time I saw you, across the Delano in South beach. I casually tossed in a comment about some of your methods , you said you knew nothing about them. Asked you right out if you were Sinn you said no. Could have been another guy that looks like you talking all the other community guys in the place once we got in. Couldn't have been you, you have such a hate towards people that lie for no reason that you made a whole videocast about it.

  27. Anonymous12:06 AM

    Just thought I'd join in the overwhelming chorus calling Sinn out for this ridiculous so-called "War" on Neil Strauss. Dude, the examples you've tried to give of Neil's "sociopathy" are just plain pathetic. Let's look at the first example, shall we? Mystery starts hitting on a girl you'd just made out with, so you go up to Neil Strauss and start crying "Neil Neil, Mystery's hitting on my girl, make him stop, wah wah wah." And Neil's reaction is, "oh, that's not cool at all." Dude, he was clearly humoring you, because I'm sure he had the same reaction I had when I watched your video: that you were being a whiny lil crybaby. Weren't you a pickup instructor at the time, for crying out loud (literally)? Didn't you teach guys what to do in those situations? The way I see it, that whole episode just involved three horny dudes trying to get with the same chick and having petty little ego battles about it. High Crime and Misdemeanor? No. Pathetic--especially guys who've laid hundreds of chicks between them? Yup.

    As for your second example involving him "lying" to you about getting out of the game right before launching a new product: a) doesn't matter b) as someone else pointed out, he was just protecting his potential product c) It's not lying; It's flirting.

  28. Anonymous8:45 PM

    Sinn, mission accomplished part III.
    Anyone aspiring to accumulate power needs a few enemies. Neil seems to be an easy target, albeit a valuable one in terms ov popularity. This industry is simply congested with weak, fatherless, homosexually repressed men. For all those looking for a bloodbath, rent a DVD or scavenge through your sisters bathroom trash for tampons. Most ov you are pathetic bitches. Any response feeds the frame lemmings. Learn or back in line.

    PS When I officially enter this 'game', men and boys will find a fault line ov demarcation between them.

  29. Anonymous9:39 PM

    So next week, we're going to get a story on how Neil Strauss did not pick up a girl... Ok... You've approached 10000 sets Sinn... Did you fuck all of them?

  30. Anonymous9:41 PM

    The 4K Annihilation Method also included a 2-day seminar, btw. And Mystery (and the community) has used a lot of Style's contributions (false time constraints, frame controls, etc...)

  31. Anonymous3:33 AM

    Dude can you do a follow up with the Chodes from Annihilation method?! They would be easy to find via Facebook. It would be great to hear how used they felt after spending 4k to listen to the midget kings surmon. I'm sure he offered them soo much support.

  32. Anonymous10:35 AM

    I love a good fight, but you need to do better. Right now, all you're doing is bumping Neil Strauss's SEO and plugging his products. Counter-productive.

  33. Anonymous11:20 AM

    >> I remember fisrt time I saw you, across the Delano in South beach. I casually tossed in a comment about some of your methods , you said you knew nothing about them. Asked you right out if you were Sinn you said no.

    You should have asked if he was Jon, he's a real person with a real name. And if you thought it was him, you wouldn't ask him if it was him, you would just say, "Hey Jon, I'm a big fan" or something like that.

  34. Anonymous7:27 AM

    This Video applies to both Neil & Mystery.
    The Pick Up Community teaches us all to develop NPD. Sorry about the tacky videojug editing, still good content. Read the DSM-IV handbook it pretty much describes these guys word for word.

  35. Anonymous7:36 PM

    DSM-IV-TR 301.81

    The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders fourth edition, DSM IV-TR, a widely used manual for diagnosing mental disorders, defines narcissistic personality disorder (in Axis II Cluster B) as:[1]

    A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
    Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
    Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
    Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
    Requires excessive admiration
    Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
    Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
    Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
    Is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her
    Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
    Often mild to moderate paranoia, that others are out to do him in.
    Predominant "name dropper" boasting or suggestion association with people or affiliations of importance.
    It is also a requirement of DSM-IV that a diagnosis of any specific personality disorder also satisfies a set of general personality disorder criteria.

  36. Anonymous11:49 AM

    WoW Op youre coughing laugh is so fking annoying, it makes me want to puke when I hear you talk.

    Youre stuck in the past talking about some stupid story that happened 5 years ago? Wow .. whos the real loser here.

  37. Anonymous2:26 AM

    Sorry but I think that you shouldn't waste your time hating Style. Mind your own business little fuck