Tuesday, January 12, 2010

The 5 Ways To Maximize Your Bootcamp Experience

Hey Guys,

At this point I would ONLY recommend taking a Bootcamp with Brad P, or Adam Lyons. Other people like myself and Speer do more long term things with multiple trainings which are great. But I know a lot of guys are still spending thousands of dollars to take one time only bootcamp with fuckwads who are teaching watered down versions of stuff I taught 3 years ago.

So if you feel the need to spend 3Gs to take a bootcamp with one of the big time companies with shitty instructors (RSD, the company that shall not be named,Venusian Arts etc..)

Here's a list of ways to get the most out of it:

The 5 Ways To Get The Most Out Of Your Bootcamp Experience:

1. Take Notes. Break your hand if you need to, ask your instructor to repeat things or give you more time to write. The notes are what you are paying for on your bootcamp. You should have At least 10-12 pages per day minimum. Also be sure to write down anything you don't understand to remind yourself to ask your instructor to clarify later on. You should review your notes once a month for the next 3-6 months.

2. Don’t argue, just do. Everything an instructor tells you to do should have a reason behind it. Sometimes it may be counterintuitive or not make sense to you. Don’t worry about that, instead just do what you are told. If things are not working for you tell your instructor, but be willing to try everything first.

3. Be willing to Be Honest With Yourself And Your Instructors. There are parts of your personality that are not helpful or meeting and attracting women. You have to be willing to look at yourself and how you communicate objectively without getting your feelings hurt in order to improve. Don't take anything an instructor tells you personally.

4. Be process oriented, not results oriented. Don’t worry about how any of the other students are doing, or if the instructors think you’re cool. Focus on the process of meeting girls, and the results will take care of themselves. Try to focus on the processes for going out, getting warmed up, approaching, trying to get attraction, movement, etc. Focus on specific processes that you are practicing.

5.The Comfort Zone is the enemy. Your body will try to trick you, and make you feel like you are going to die if you do something outside of it. But it is only by changing our comfort zone that we can improve our lives. You don't have to do things that are extremely outside of your comfort zone, but be willing to push yourself enough that you feel it.


Later this week I'll write about how to make sure that you are still making improvements when the workshop high wears off.


JS- The King Of Content


  1. Anonymous8:58 AM


    best advice..stop giving money to these guys who can't teach u s*** and spend your hard earned money on smt else.

  2. Anonymous9:48 AM

    Great advice. The "company that will no be named" really did a doozy on me. No demos, instructors that would not give any credible direction. Money out the window.

  3. Anonymous11:47 AM

    Nice one, and I agree that BradP and AFCAdam are one of the few people that are qualified to teach this stuff.
    I would avoid Love Systems or RSD altogether.

  4. "the company that shall not be named"

    Are we talking about Love Systems here?

  5. Anonymous12:16 PM

    Gold Jon yo when is the next podcast?

  6. I respect your opinion.

    But wait Sinn, but Lovesystems have dudes you trained like The Don, and Tenmagnet, not even them?

    I understand too why not RSD, but there are good instructors too, Tyler, Jeffy and Ozzie (Wich you trained too) , not even them? Really you can base your opinion of a entire company in some instructors? Said that, we dont even know Adam lions instructors, since he doesnt do demos, only his instructors.

    I have nothing to say about Brad P tho, the instructors I know are awesome.

  7. Anonymous2:42 PM

    I would also like to know who the company is that will not be named. Lovesystems? Really?

  8. Anonymous3:27 PM

    i can definitly vouch for afc adams and brad.

    i met brad in person for 5 mins and the advice that he gave me to improve my game was what cracked a long sticking point i had for kiss closing 2 years back.

    i've gamed with adam lyons and if you haven't seen him game, don't knock it. because what he teaches and the results you see him get infield are amazing.

  9. Anonymous3:35 PM

    Bradp is definitely an amazing teacher, but his bootcamps suck. I attended one early last year and saw his instructors get blown out over and over, and there were only two instructors for a 9 student bootcamp. If I was to do it over again, I would attend a local lair and try to find help there. You will save an ass load of money (3k for a bootcamp is ridiculous), and get better attention that you will at a bootcamp. My .02 from actual experiences.

  10. Anonymous3:42 PM

    What about Fader? He works for L.S. and you talk about his awesome ability to teach.

    Not to mention, what if I didn't get into 12 Months to Mastery, what am I supposed to do to improve?

  11. Paying 3 G for a bootcamp is CRAZY

    Just stop fucking around and approach. Anybody who is really motivated to see results can get them without wasting a bunch of money...

  12. 6. Don't take more than one boot camp. If you do then you probably didn't do what the first guy told you to do. Don't be a seminar/theory junkie. You are better off spending thousands of dollars on porn (at least you'll learn how to fuck) than filling your head with a bunch of theories that might be slightly different from the others. The best kind of boot camp you can take is to go out BY YOURSELF and confidently open a shit ton of sets (if you can't then take ONE boot camp), write down your results, and calibrate your game accordingly. Also a lot of guys in the community fuck themselves over by getting obsessed with opening and getting attraction. Always go for the close. I'm a shallow and efficient prick and typically go for it the same day/night. Go for the fclose as soon as possible.

  13. Anonymous9:57 PM

    Ive taken a lovesystems bootcamp and my friend took an afc adam bootcamp. He said AFC adam didnt do one approach and brought his girlfriend w him. he only saw one instructor do an actual approach. the only advice the kept giving was "be natural", when youre there because you "naturally" have no game. My LS bootcamp rocked and we had 8 instructors and 7 students. i was in set WITH all of them, best wings alive. braddock and future were there

  14. Anonymous10:53 PM

    Jon also mentioned about some seminar-junkie who had BRITISH TEETH - Austin Powers chewey choppers !

    The guy refused to fix his LOOK, there is a marketing element - change of hairstyle from the 1960s or 1980s to the modern day -or the old clothes -if you don't change the packaging, you'll see more resistance....ADD IT IN, SINN, or out the poop, chute!

  15. Its interesting that guys would even spend ANY money on boot camps. I'd say the reason that they do is because they are looking for a magic pill. Being good at meeting women takes work and no amount of money you throw at it will ever fix the issues that you have. That being said I think most guys don't really want to meet amazing women, they want to fuck hot chicks and don't really give a shit about them. The pickup community has really gone down hill in the last couple of years. Even you Sinn have lost your grounding I think. You used to give great advice and now all you do is spout bullshit and talk trash about other people in the community. You aren't wrong about those people you talk shit about, but how is that giving anyone value?

    Try to keep in mind that you are the company you keep. Cameron (sic) is childish and having him around you has affected you in a negative way. You might want to examine what you are up to and who you are hanging out with.

  16. Anonymous2:13 AM

    No matter how great it is, to spend $US 3000 on only a 2 day bootcamp is a con (especially in the current economic climate), that basically favours wealthier guys who can afford that, plus only a small percentage of guys would keep applying what they learnt once it's over.

    I'd do Sinn's 12MTM over a longer period, but the disappointing sticking point is you've got to reside in the US, which I don't. While never as good as in person
    face to face coaching, for primarily guys residing outside of North America, I'd suggest making a 12MTM video - audio product.

  17. Anonymous12:34 PM

    I did a Lovesystems bootcamp. What a joke. The seminar portion was good stuff but each of the two night I left early. The instructors were disorganized, did no demos - it was a TOTAL joke. Plus we had guys dropping out during the camp. What kind of instruction is that? I went into a tailspin after that and took along time to get my footing. I would never advise that program. NEVER.

  18. Anonymous2:37 AM

    ^ LOL definately, lovesystems is a joke. I bet you took your bootcamp with Mr. Midget. My friend took a lovesystems bootcamp with Mr. Midget and he said the infield was terrible. My friend still sucks with girls, but to be honest, I suck with girls too but at least I'm not $3000 short.