Monday, November 09, 2009

What I've Learned From over a Half Decade in The SUISC

So I've been teasing and tantalizing about this post for quite some time now...

And I even have a soundtrack for it...

"There's ten rules for the Game but I'll share with you two, know niggas gon hate you for whatever you do..."

This was always my flag ship post until the last few years, so it's back only with 2 additional years of learning. So let's get into the stream of consciousness style rants :)

The basic idea is that I list various things I've learned from my time in the SUISC, some of it's game related, some of it's gossip and some unfortunately is just common sense I was lacking :)

Your idols in the community are false. There is literally 0 point in making any of us "gurus". We're all just normal guys who learned or naturally had skills with women. That's all. We're not better than you guys, more alpha, courageous, or any of the other super human attributes that get attributed to guys just because they're supposedly good with women.

There is NO such thing as a perfect pickup. Pick up is all about making mistakes and then trying to fix them.

There is 0 point in whining about the way things are. This could be the way certain girls act like stimulus junkies at clubs, it could be the social status you have in your group, it could be that girls will flirt with you and then makeout with another guy. Accept reality the way it. Self deception only hurts you.

Most guys don't want to be players. Or even have a lifestyle that would allow them to be a player.

Guys have WAY more issues about sex than women. Seriously.

The two biggest sticking points are social and sexual anxiety. Point blank period.

Every guy embellishes their abilities with women, except guys who are amazingly good with them.

How a guy deals with a blowout tells you everything you need to know about his level of skill with girls.

There is an intangible quality to guys that are good with women. I can't explain it, but I can tell when guys have it and when they don't and women can tell even faster than I can. Especially hot ones.

The importance of touching to escalate towards sex is vastly overrated.

Being true to yourself creates more sticking points. It's not like once you figure out who you want to convey yourself to be, all your problems with women go away.

Learning to suppress the need to impress people will help your game more than anything else you can do.

It is far better to overescalate than underescalate. As Warren Beatty once famously said "You get slapped a lot but you get laid a lot too."

99% of the population cares less about this stuff than you do if you're reading this right now. That's called an obsession and it's a bit unhealthy. So you may want to try caring a little less about getting laid. I include myself in this previous paragraph.

There is no such thing as community in the community. Communities support each other, offer help and display a genuine caring for the people in it. The SUISC consists of guys bragging, guys asking for help from the guys bragging, a lot of in fighting and drama, a lot of bullshit information, and a ton of haters.

No one invented any of this stuff, so it's stupid to be dogmatic about following it and even stupider to argue over whose material something is. I know I used to do that a lot :p

Lifestyle will get you laid way more than skillsets or inner game. It's a fact.

Women do not have to like you in order to sleep with you.

Being known for hitting on girls is actually a good thing. Being a professional pua, not so much :)

If you're in the community, it's because something is not normal about you. Sorry to be the one to say it, but it's true. This doesn't mean you're a bad person or a nerd, or a loser. It simply means there is a reason you ended up here, and most guys don't. Embrace it. Again, I include myself and all instructors at every company in this statement.

The community is not, has never been and will never be a "cool" or mainstream thing. People just don't care that much.

The only person you have to compete with, compare yourself to or impress is yourself. In fact the only person who really cares about your success with women is you.

Qualification and movement are the keys to game. These are what allow you to escalate and move the interaction forward.

Don't be afraid to hit on girls, they think you are anyway!

Women are WAY cooler than men, easier to deal with, less stupid ego issues. More emotions mean you can overreact to things without it being a big deal. As I always say to girls, I can tell my female friends I hate them at 2PM and by 7 we're cool again. If I tell a guy that we're no longer friends. It took me awhile to get here, but I think I'm now an rampant feminist :)

Peaks and Valleys are an inevitable part of the game, everyone has them. Some nights you can;t do anything wrong, other nights, nothing works. Embrace this fact.

Here's what I mean when I say someone is good with girls; They can sleep with a new ATTRACTIVE girl every week from cold approaches. I realize this is ridiculous and most guys will NEVER get there. But still...

Allright that's all I got

Oh, and David Wygant is a bitch :)

JS-The King Of Content


  1. Anonymous12:43 PM

    Very interesting. Some of these got my throat dry.

    Would be cool if you could elaborate on some of these tho, but I guess each of these points could probably be a whole blog post for itself...

  2. Warped Mindless12:53 PM

    I agree with almost everything in this post. Good post Sinn.

    P.S. Chicks are MUCH cooler than guys and so much easier to get along with.

  3. Thanks John, good article. I hadn't been to your blog in a few months due to the increase in advertising and decrease in content that seemed to replace the mostly new articles, so I'm glad to see some more solid content.

  4. Anonymous2:36 PM

    So true. Thanks for this post!

  5. Anonymous3:40 PM

    tight ost man. Its the reason why its the only pickup website i look at anymore.

    "Women do not have to like you in order to sleep with you."

    this was the most painfull realisation of my life

    thanks again respect

  6. Anonymous3:40 PM

    Decrease in content? WTF you talking about Will? Sinn puts out more quality content than anyone else out there...

  7. Anonymous5:01 PM

    Lol. Love your subliminal Tyler reference.. Point blank period.


  8. Anonymous5:54 PM

    Theres not a chance that you are sleeping with a new "attractive" girl each week from cold approach. I've been out with ya man

  9. Agreed with the first comment, that I'd like to hear more on a lot of these. Especially that lifestyle one (more important than skill or inner game). I'll check around to see what else you've written on it. Great stuff -- enjoyed this post a lot!

  10. Anonymous8:30 PM

    sinn your probably gunna ignore this but a real criticism i have on this blog is not the content i mean its useful stuff but damn man a lil more comedy for this pick up stuff would be great or just more comedic shit in general i liked the wygant post shit was funny

  11. A 25-minute documentary on the SUISC, featuring everybody's favorite funeral home prowler:

  12. Anonymous1:40 AM

    Women are easier to deal with than men? You've got to be kidding.

    You'd be hard pressed to find a girl that agrees with that statement (or a guy for that matter).

    Not to mention the existence of this community is proof of otherwise. Would you need an entire community build on how to interact with men? A pamphlet would more than suffice.

  13. Anonymous2:17 AM


  14. "Theres not a chance that you are sleeping with a new "attractive" girl each week from cold approach. I've been out with ya man"

    This isnt that difficult once you can get snl's (aka fundamentals of sexual connection) consistently. Then its just.... approach girl -> get number -> date , where on the date you basically do what youd do in a snl except you control the environment instead of existing within it as a bar.

    Or maybe you just skip dates and go on hot slut patrol. Either way, completely reasonable and doable, so long as you live in a city that isnt full of ugly girls.

  15. Anonymous3:31 AM

    Hey Jon, really great post.

    There seems to be something missing in the last but second paragraph though: "If I tell a guy that we're no longer friends."
    What happens if you tell that to a guy? :-)

  16. Anonymous4:14 AM

    Just like every fucking other guy in this "community" you speak as if everything you say is dead certain. That really makes my bullshit radar tick even though I pretty much agree with most of the things you say

  17. Ah... you know the seduction community has only ONE SINGLE problem.

    that it lives through the INTERNET.

    99% of the 'community' have never seen the gurus that they worship so much in real life.

    how they REALLY behave, in field, in life, and not with a camera editing the in field footage later.

    if they actually saw the gurus for real from the get go, everything would be self explanatory.

    however because it's mostly internet based, the students get brainwashed for months or even years, then fork over thousands of dollars to see the guru in a bootcamp, by then they are unable to make an objective judgement.

    if they just randomly saw the guy (guru) without all the hype and money paid, they may have never been impressed with him for even a millisecond.

  18. Jeffrey D2:39 PM

    LIFESTYLE is more important than skills or inner game, according to your post. This inspired me to stop and think about this

    I found your Three-Part Series on Lifestyle Design that is really worth the read for those who have not read them yet.

    "Lifestyle: Part 1 How the hell can Lifestyle get me laid?"

    I think this topic deserves more discussion. Sinn, I hope that you can write more on this topic for us. Lifestyle design addresses the "top down" approach to game versus specific skills which are more "bottom up." Both are necessary, but the bigger perspective is often lost in the community. Also, maybe you can include more case studies from your students' lifestyle designs. Thanks.

  19. you are a god please let me start a religion and have you as the messiah/prophet

  20. Anonymous10:02 PM

    you are a god please let me start a religion with you as the messiah/prophet

  21. Anonymous2:02 AM

    great stuffs. My rule to say If someone is good IS his ability to fuck 2 new attractive women every single week. It is what I do, and what a couple of my non-community friends. Every single week, at least 2, sometimes 4 or 5. Well I live somewhere in the world where women are said to be easier so maybe it is why my criteria is higher than yours.

  22. Anonymous6:13 PM

    "The importance of touching to escalate towards sex is vastly overrated."


    The importance of "value" (being an alpha-male) is vastly (ridiculously) overrated, too.