tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post1621519928498890923..comments2023-10-06T05:49:40.072-07:00Comments on The Sinns Of Attraction: David Wygant is NOT the real hitch but is getting FJM'DAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04097455056456895956noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post-69973542126454302842011-06-01T20:29:20.645-07:002011-06-01T20:29:20.645-07:00You're giving all your power to complaints you...You're giving all your power to complaints you have about someone. That's certainly a way to function in life, but it doesn't attract me as a potential client of yours. Why dedicate an entire blog posting to a guy who is really doing nothing directly to you? Why is it so important to you to make him wrong?Johnhttp://www.artinstitutes.edunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post-28648720040456264512009-11-13T10:46:57.298-08:002009-11-13T10:46:57.298-08:00also, (assuming that was the real wygant posting) ...also, (assuming that was the real wygant posting) how can he hate on sinn for his nickname? doesn't he go by Jon most of the time nowadays? can you really hate on a guy for what he went by as a kid?!? <br />oh well, i guess that's just much more mature than challenging some one to a fight like "an 11 year old".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post-80035024894318131182009-11-13T10:39:12.964-08:002009-11-13T10:39:12.964-08:00I usually hate negative/bashing posts like this in...I usually hate negative/bashing posts like this in blogs and forums, but I can't stand David Wygant so I make an exception here. I would have paid to see you too brawl too (though challenging someone to a fight doesn't help your case). Honestly, it's probably a unfair and uninformed opinion, but there's something about his writing and his appearances on PickUpPodCast.com that just really bothers me. I think a large part of it is his entitled attitude, but the complete lack of useful content has something to do with it too. <br /><br />For all I knew, Wygant might be a saint who feeds starving children on his time off from saving puppies from fires, but I don't know him that well. What I do know is that something about him and his writing irks me. A lot.<br /><br />I should also point out that I had this opinion long before I knew my favorite PUA/blogger shared my disdain for David. (I'm not just another idol worshipper backing his his favorite guru blindly.)<br /><br />- Al<br /><br />P.S. More importantly than guru wars; when are you going to post on King James trying to get MJ's number retired nationwide? This has me all torn up between my appreciation for MJ, and the fact that a Jackie Robinson like tribute should be reserved for those who defeated epic adversity. He does deserve something though, maybe the season MVP name, via Russel and the Finals MVP? (Kareem would probably be furious though, wouldn't he?)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15791010153178180577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post-61706549148850861782009-11-12T21:28:26.242-08:002009-11-12T21:28:26.242-08:00I saw a speech by Wygant at the 2007 PUA Summit an...I saw a speech by Wygant at the 2007 PUA Summit and it was definitely anti-routine. Then I saw him in Mehow's Infield Insider and most of the clips are just him doing small talk with people working in stores. I wasn't impressed, there's not one thing that learned from him doing 5 or 6 "small talk" sets besides that he thinks it gets you in a talkative state. But other PUA's give you that same advice, and advice on how to structure interactions.Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03023530584321839524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post-74255206625377515542009-11-09T20:03:59.359-08:002009-11-09T20:03:59.359-08:00Sinn, I agree with Wygant that you come off worse ...Sinn, I agree with Wygant that you come off worse for the ranting. I respect you a lot, but when you go into ranting mode you lose me. If you were going to skewer Wygant, you should have used humor, as you did in your hilarious commentary on Mystery's VH1 show. As for Wygant using routines, yup, he does. That's obvious. Juggler is also anti-routines, but he uses them. As Mehow says, all the natural gamers use routines. Geez, only a nut totally avoids using what's been proven to work in the past.Kurtnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post-9535306193142641082009-11-09T19:00:12.559-08:002009-11-09T19:00:12.559-08:00I heard that the set with the blond girl on David ...I heard that the set with the blond girl on David Wygant's Infield Insider is fake. And that's only number he got.<br /><br />I have a friend who knows her and she said she's known David for a while and he didn't actually pick her up that day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post-78820446069820818802009-11-09T12:50:08.126-08:002009-11-09T12:50:08.126-08:00I'm willing to bet that David Wygant pulls mor...I'm willing to bet that David Wygant pulls more ass than 99% of the guys here that's hating on him.Warped Mindlessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post-85816063438523725982009-11-08T05:53:31.495-08:002009-11-08T05:53:31.495-08:00man i agree totally with this post!!! wygant sux m...man i agree totally with this post!!! wygant sux man...he constantly contradicts himself...he's an average pua with no real master skills at all. He gets by on the lamest shit. everyone has their own style bbut he's all preachy with his as though he is gangster or something...all i can say is sinn if you are out pulling same night 3 somes like i saw u mention you go for sometimes then you are the fukn LORD!! even though u talk about seppo sport too much on your blog.euphorichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09242607951822043009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post-20328321130797349582009-11-07T01:54:28.104-08:002009-11-07T01:54:28.104-08:00I agree with Derrick in that David is trying to do...I agree with Derrick in that David is trying to do right (if he's not totally trying to make money, which he is), but at the same time Sinn is absolutely right.<br /><br />I've met David, talked with him for a while, hung out with him, gone to his seminar after I talked to him and defended him from the irate college girls he was preaching to, and ultimately lost faith in what he says (I was brand new to the community).<br /><br />He talks a good "non-game" spiel, but ultimately, honestly, the dude relies totally on routine and his routines are terrible. It's like someone with a 5th grade reading level read The Game and decided to make money reiterating it and pretending like it never existed. <br /><br />Get with Sinn (most of you already are), Lovesystems, or Captain Jack if that fool ever posted.Coryhttp://www.afifthofvapor.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post-88813335967562926772009-11-06T22:31:48.094-08:002009-11-06T22:31:48.094-08:00Wygant goes down hard...1...2..3..4,
stumbles back...Wygant goes down hard...1...2..3..4,<br />stumbles back to his feet....<br /><br />DW: Ummm yea nice name....Sinn...that name's stupid... and you're only a novice marketer..hehe.. Why do you wanna fight me you're so juvenile! <br />Show me you're a real man and look<br />in to my eyes. I save my intimate eye contact for real men only.<br /><br />Sinn: Why did we have to meet in Whole Foods at 6:30 sharp, and why are you smelling that fruit so passionately?<br /><br />DW: Look you jealous little school boy, you've failed to meet my gaze, so let's see if you have the guts to post this awesome comeback. <br /><br />Sinn laughs, clicks his mouse,<br />and WYGANT IS DOWN FOR THE COUNT!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post-54311427092478792132009-11-06T21:19:06.568-08:002009-11-06T21:19:06.568-08:00All PUA 'gurus' have to be successful mark...All PUA 'gurus' have to be successful marketers to make a living and some are much better at it than others. I think Mr. Wygant's material and his workshops (since he offers ones to women as well) serves a useful function for some guys who are probably totally turned off by the PUA concept and equate it with being a manipulative, superficial sleazebag, so feel more comfortable with the concept of using a dating coach. I haven't taken any Wygant workshop, but I'd say he's very wise to position himself that way.<br /><br />I know he's fairly quiet these days, but as he's probably the biggest fraud and is more of a marketer than anything else with all his overpriced AFC products, the person I'd like seeing Sinn bust on is Eben Pagan (or whatever his real name is, as that sounds totally fake as well), better known as David DeAngelo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post-3160096926459148142009-11-06T19:27:53.437-08:002009-11-06T19:27:53.437-08:00I myself am a Brad P student being part of his pro...I myself am a Brad P student being part of his program and what not...I am biased I will not deny that but he does a lot for members of the 3030 club and students in general he gives us huge discounts on bc which I doubt many gurus would do, the stuff he teaches actually work as sinn will tell you as far as him being arrogant sure maybe he is but hes the first guy to pass up on a girl and hand her over to a student so he can get laid also who gives a fuck if hes arrogant? As long as hes getting me laid then he can be the biggest asshole I've ever met I think what you guys have to realize is that yeah these teachers are normal human beings with flaws...Brad happens to be very good with girls and guess what? Most guys who are good with girls are arrogant. I am biased I won't lie but the things I said are true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post-87796919233580838952009-11-06T15:06:12.341-08:002009-11-06T15:06:12.341-08:00Jerry Jerry Jerry!!!!Jerry Jerry Jerry!!!!Blogaholicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00506390921726644726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post-43258405240981737052009-11-06T10:42:56.974-08:002009-11-06T10:42:56.974-08:00I get where u are coming from but I also think you...I get where u are coming from but I also think you are being a bit harsh..<br /><br />david has some good stuff on his blog/youtube..<br /><br />its not everyone's business however.. <br /><br />you do approches (I do as well) david talks the whole day and hits from time to time<br /><br />According the hitch stuff... <br /><br />@david if you are the real aspiration as you talked about in pickup podcast.. why dont you interview the guys who found you, you talked with etc...<br /><br />you are a smart marketer.. when the movie came out would have been the perfect moment for that.. sales would skyrocket... thats what makes it suspisious from your part..<br /><br />from john's part would be great to give details or just let it be... john you knwo its your blog.. you got the sympaty and credibility.. and also a lot of braindead people who believe shit right away only cuz someone is charismatic.. (not saying that all are that way or that you are lying.. but i think you got the point)Seiyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post-67972130397600435482009-11-06T10:25:02.528-08:002009-11-06T10:25:02.528-08:00Jon, I hate to say it but I agree with David here....Jon, I hate to say it but I agree with David here. This is quite a disturbing post....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post-10928777650087668172009-11-06T09:35:31.395-08:002009-11-06T09:35:31.395-08:00Sinn now thats a cool name.
How long did it take y...Sinn now thats a cool name.<br />How long did it take you to think that one up?<br />Anyway of course I read this I get my google alerts and as a novice marketer you keyworded very well.<br /><br />But really why the juvenile hostility?<br /><br />You and I have never had a conversation longer than 5 seconds.<br /><br />You have this hate for someone you do not even know.<br /><br />You challenge me to a fight like we are 11 years old.<br /><br />Do you know what is really disturbing?<br /><br />You are out teaching men how to be men and connect with women yet you handle yourself like a jealous school boy who hates someone for no reason at all.<br /><br />You want to debate me fine do it as man but be a man and form an opinion based on actual real life face to face interaction.<br /><br />Lets see if you have the guts to post this.davidwyganthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08183592463533350982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post-52619787340990378772009-11-06T09:13:36.490-08:002009-11-06T09:13:36.490-08:00Wygant = cocksucking faggot who flirts with old wo...Wygant = cocksucking faggot who flirts with old women in whole foodsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post-26011771941590316892009-11-06T09:04:01.523-08:002009-11-06T09:04:01.523-08:00Obviously hes not as good as you, but he does have...Obviously hes not as good as you, but he does have his followers. Stop being too harsh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post-32581254552967863922009-11-06T09:02:36.732-08:002009-11-06T09:02:36.732-08:00rfrrrfrrAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post-43247957026618419372009-11-06T08:36:18.716-08:002009-11-06T08:36:18.716-08:00I agree Brad P is arrogant. Very. David Wygant is ...I agree Brad P is arrogant. Very. David Wygant is arrogant too but he is more comical. I took a Brad P bootcamp and he is doing psychiatric evaluations - this man is not a Doctor - what the hell is going on here? I worked with Wygant and he never went near there. <br /><br />I have worked with both Brad P and Captain Jack (who you rated as both your top PUA picks) and I have to say CJ is really a great down to earth dude. What a difference and a classy guy as well. No arrogance there and his intellect runs circles around anyone I have met in this community (only exceptions being possibly TD and maybe Mystery - afterall he did come up with the basis for all this - take that Savoy). <br /><br />Speaking of CJ, whatever happened to that idea for an interview? We need to hear more from him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post-89533467438206391612009-11-06T02:04:00.284-08:002009-11-06T02:04:00.284-08:00To anyone who didn't fully read Sinn's pos...To anyone who didn't fully read Sinn's post.<br /><br />The main point is that David Wygant disliked routines but now he is writing articles about using routines such as story-telling. So what does that say about him?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post-48478172313291345802009-11-05T21:34:04.517-08:002009-11-05T21:34:04.517-08:00I think you are being a little harsh. I can see w...I think you are being a little harsh. I can see why his advice would not be helpful to everyone (especially guys that need a lot of work), but I don't think he is coming from a bad place. Everyone learns differently. The way he teaches and gets his point across helps some people but obviously it's not gonna resonate with everyone.BadCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13057198329392684682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post-8161729101006418902009-11-05T20:50:23.895-08:002009-11-05T20:50:23.895-08:00David Wygant never sat right with me but honestly ...David Wygant never sat right with me but honestly I don't know his stuff well enough to judge it's worth either way.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00396474141702920184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post-20410063132726550542009-11-05T17:51:49.760-08:002009-11-05T17:51:49.760-08:00Almost all PUA guru instructors definitely have th...Almost all PUA guru instructors definitely have their faults,some moreso than others. I like how Wygant makes himself accessible via his You Tube page that's regularly updated. You don't see that sort of accessibility and humbleness (to the common person) with gurus as arrogant as BradP (same with his blog,that's a total joke compared to the Sinn one) and Mystery for example.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36873781.post-37442458401956279422009-11-05T15:49:37.882-08:002009-11-05T15:49:37.882-08:00Believe, I am really no David Wygant fan but I rea...Believe, I am really no David Wygant fan but I really do not find his post that bad...actually if you think about it, its very similar to what you have been teaching about story telling and such...seriously...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com